Ask HN: "No AI" apps/companies/resources?

6 points by BrunoBernardino 7 hours ago
I know some people might think this is not the best community to ask for this, but I hope I can be pleasantly surprised.<p>Is there any useful&#x2F;helpful list of apps, companies, or resources in general that avoid AI (they don&#x27;t have to be vocally or openly &quot;anti&quot;, but at least explicitly avoid it) that you know of?<p>I&#x27;m not looking to start a discussion on what&#x27;s good&#x2F;bad or (un)worthy about AI, or who&#x27;s for&#x2F;against, just links and&#x2F;or communities promoting this sentiment&#x2F;position.<p>For example, https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.rebeltechalliance.org would be one of those resources.<p>Thank you (I hope this won&#x27;t be downvoted to oblivion)!

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drltaidev 4 hours ago | 0 points
I recently read a vacancy for a C&#x2F;C++ engineer where they explicitly mentioned they don&#x27;t use AI. I can&#x27;t find it anymore and it was a small specific Dutch company, but at least that still happens. I can imagine in places where cybersecurity is important they may also not use it (except that those actually developing cybersecurity NEED to use it to keep up...).
enoint 7 hours ago | 0 points
What sentiment does rebeltechalliance have about AI? It barely mentions it, and is clearly focused on the modes of mass surveillance.<p>To that end, there are two different discussions:<p>Does AI technology itself facilitate mass surveillance, any more than smartphone adoption has?<p>Does the financing structure of data centers facilitate mass surveillance; more than it facilitates advancements in AI?
BrunoBernardino 6 hours ago | 0 points
They started originally to help people move away from Big Tech, but they do say early on the homepage:<p>&gt; And now AI is making all that much worse...<p>As for your questions, I agree those are different and related discussions that I&#x27;m not looking to bring here, as I&#x27;m not sure it&#x27;ll be necessarily productive, but I&#x27;m happy to be proven wrong!
enoint 6 hours ago | 0 points
I think of these as independent:<p>Advances in small models, on-device. This feels closest to your question.<p>The rare CEO who is maybe bearish on AI, but preparing for a bubble to burst. Asset managers, for instance. Paid to be early, but also to survive being early.<p>The actual purpose of hyperscalar data centers. Are they all guilty of advancing <i>some</i> mass surveillance? Or do we call it model training, which is only sometimes pointed at mass surveillance?
conartist6 7 hours ago | 0 points
Oh hell yes!<p>I&#x27;m working on reinventing IDEs to give make human code editors competitive with agents again.<p>I have a Discord where I collect an ever-growing crowd of people like you who have become disillusioned: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;discord.gg&#x2F;NfMNyYN6cX" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;discord.gg&#x2F;NfMNyYN6cX</a>
vconnor 4 hours ago | 0 points
What is the Discord exactly about? I can&#x27;t tell from the name. But I&#x27;m interested in a no&#x2F;anti AI zone.<p>To answer OP, there&#x27;s also the Handmade community which isn&#x27;t necessarily anti-AI, but using it goes completely against its ethos, so it&#x27;s very much frowned upon. And in my experience it&#x27;s a great bunch of smart and creative folks.
conartist6 2 hours ago | 0 points
It&#x27;s an open source project developed in public: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;bablr-lang" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;bablr-lang</a><p>It&#x27;s closest in scope to Tree-sitter, defining a parser core and the ability to run arbitrary parsers. The end goal is to replace Git and Github and tear down the structural barriers to software literacy.<p>For example, check out our code syntax highlighter, Bedazzlr: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;docs.bablr.org&#x2F;reference&#x2F;bedazzlr" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;docs.bablr.org&#x2F;reference&#x2F;bedazzlr</a><p>Other web syntax highlighters just add colors, which paradoxically only helps you read the code if you <i>already</i> know what the code means.<p>Bedazzlr is more like having <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;astexplorer.net&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;astexplorer.net&#x2F;</a> embedded right into the blog post code snippet. You get semantic highlighting for example, and you can even see how the parser breaks things down. All in only a few KB of code!<p>The goal is to develop it into a fully featured in-browser IDE and version control system, and to compete with Github
Kevin_Flynn 7 hours ago | 0 points
Everyone uses AI now.<p>Driver downgrades not allowed.<p>Flashing old firmware will brick the economy.<p>There are a few who will remain defiant, but they are easy to identify.<p>They are still wearing their Fauci signed COVID mask.